tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2072949053404807587.post6394574907247368124..comments2023-03-27T11:27:08.451-04:00Comments on Formerly Barred: Now I'm Done Believing YouMormonRaisedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03756504100827863560noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2072949053404807587.post-6001054081731720392010-10-13T01:39:36.990-04:002010-10-13T01:39:36.990-04:00I did not yield to the enticement of homosexual be...<i>I did not yield to the enticement of homosexual behavior. I got married.</i><br /><br />BRILLIANT! And so true.MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2072949053404807587.post-75362582805740810742010-10-13T00:36:22.632-04:002010-10-13T00:36:22.632-04:00And, Alpha, my most important point was that Packe...And, Alpha, my most important point was that Packer made it clear that homosexuality was undesirable--and that does lead to young Mormons hating and hurting themselves. There is nothing more or less desirable about homosexuality, and homosexual people can be just as happy as anyone else wheither they are in a same sex relationship or not.<br /><br />Packer's speech was wrong and harmful, and it was not of God. Period.MormonRaisedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03756504100827863560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2072949053404807587.post-6433476798891467972010-10-13T00:19:55.220-04:002010-10-13T00:19:55.220-04:00Alpha,
I did not yield to the enticement of homos...Alpha,<br /><br />I did not yield to the enticement of homosexual behavior. I got married. In case you didn't know, it was a responsible, conscious choice that I made and that has brought me more joy and lasting deep fulfillment than I have ever before experienced.<br /><br />It was not my behavior that separated me from the Church, it was recognizing the harm Church has caused me and many others and choosing to leave.<br /><br />You would never refer to your marriage or to a friend's marriage as "enticing behavior." If you can't treat me with respect as a married man--talking to me as you would an equal--then please don't read or comment on my blog.MormonRaisedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03756504100827863560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2072949053404807587.post-37112118799730170112010-10-12T23:26:22.026-04:002010-10-12T23:26:22.026-04:00Daniel, Elder Packer's statement was not that ...Daniel, Elder Packer's statement was not that homosexuality was a sinful choice that could be avoided, but rather that homosexual BEHAVIOR was wrong and unacceptable to the Lord.<br /><br />You could've remained a member of the Church in good standing, even as an openly homosexual man. Alas, you yielded to the enticement of homosexual behavior. It was your BEHAVIOR, not your INCLINATIONS that separated you from the Church. You can rationalize that your behavior was inevitable or acceptable merely based on the fact that you were born like that. Unfortunately, there's no asterisk stating this in the scriptures.<br /><br />Nowadays anyone that doesn't accept homosexual SEX as acceptable behavior is branded a homophobe and viciously and hatefully harassed, ironically by the very segment of society that publicly extols the virtues of tolerance and love.<br /><br />Read this statement released by the Church, and think about how thoughtful, civil and loving the Church is, even in the face of antagonists who bear none of those attributes:<br /><br />http://beta-newsroom.lds.org/article/church-mormon-responds-to-human-rights-campaign-petition-same-sex-attractionAlpha Dognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2072949053404807587.post-75696724237884071722010-10-11T00:39:24.490-04:002010-10-11T00:39:24.490-04:00I'm so sorry you experienced that.
I remembe...I'm so sorry you experienced that. <br /><br />I remember how awful, dirty, and worthless I felt on my mission after reading the talks he gave which were part of our mission packet. <br /><br />Honestly, I'm pretty much convinced that he's gay himself, and more than anything I feel sorry for him. It seems clear to me that he hates himself, and I feel sorry for him that he grew up in a time that made it impossible for him to ever accept himself for who he is. But that doesn't excuse his actions and words which have directly led to the suicides of countless LBGT Mormons. I know that his teachings were a huge part of my depression and near suicide attempts. <br /><br />In all this, the one comfort I take is that they're nervous. They respond to the protests against them and recognise that they're in trouble. They are just beginning to realise, I think, that the outside world will not respond to their homophobia, and that also the church is becoming increasing less willing to endure their bigotry and prejudice. <br /><br />If only they weren't so blinded by their own rhetoric and prejudice that they could see the pain and death they're causing, all for no reason at all.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09374110841642375968noreply@blogger.com